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	<title>Comments on: Neurowords and the burden of responsibility</title>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Lyons</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2012/07/28/neurowords-and-the-burden-of-responsibility/#comment-31632</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan Lyons]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2012 18:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think, much like the compatibilists, you are trying to have it both ways.

Either the brain is a deterministic physical object or it isn&#039;t. If it is, then we are quite simply not metaphysically responsible for our actions. If it isn&#039;t, then you still might find room for metaphysical responsibility in the indeterminacy of our brain states. Even still, it seems like unless you can trace responsibility to some sort of metaphysical origin - i.e., a soul - you are going to run into the fact that you can&#039;t locate the entities responsible for their actions inside the brain, since, even in an indeterminate situation, neural processing is a distributed, global process.

It&#039;s time we confront the uncomfortable fact that society&#039;s views of crime and punishment are, at the very best, simplistic, and, at the very worst, based on a myth. Until then, it seems like everyone is quite forgiving of the mentally ill up until the point where they do something that&#039;s actually insane - i.e., kill people.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think, much like the compatibilists, you are trying to have it both ways.</p>
<p>Either the brain is a deterministic physical object or it isn&#8217;t. If it is, then we are quite simply not metaphysically responsible for our actions. If it isn&#8217;t, then you still might find room for metaphysical responsibility in the indeterminacy of our brain states. Even still, it seems like unless you can trace responsibility to some sort of metaphysical origin &#8211; i.e., a soul &#8211; you are going to run into the fact that you can&#8217;t locate the entities responsible for their actions inside the brain, since, even in an indeterminate situation, neural processing is a distributed, global process.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s time we confront the uncomfortable fact that society&#8217;s views of crime and punishment are, at the very best, simplistic, and, at the very worst, based on a myth. Until then, it seems like everyone is quite forgiving of the mentally ill up until the point where they do something that&#8217;s actually insane &#8211; i.e., kill people.</p>
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		<title>By: brain injury self rehabilitation (BISR)</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2012/07/28/neurowords-and-the-burden-of-responsibility/#comment-31405</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2012 02:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Something to think about, but on the flip side of this specific situation in Colorado is this:  Why are mental health problems so limited in America&#039;s healthcare system? Funding has been cut so drastically for mental-health that proper assessment, diagnosis and treatment could take years instead of months.  From this one situation we have how many people that have been affected the rest of their lives...I&#039;m sure it&#039;s in the thousands.  I&#039;m speaking of everyone associated with anyone by the shooting, including the family and friends of the shooter, and the psychiatrist.  Gun control gets better media attention than cuts in mental health funding.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something to think about, but on the flip side of this specific situation in Colorado is this:  Why are mental health problems so limited in America&#8217;s healthcare system? Funding has been cut so drastically for mental-health that proper assessment, diagnosis and treatment could take years instead of months.  From this one situation we have how many people that have been affected the rest of their lives&#8230;I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s in the thousands.  I&#8217;m speaking of everyone associated with anyone by the shooting, including the family and friends of the shooter, and the psychiatrist.  Gun control gets better media attention than cuts in mental health funding.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Poston</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2012/07/28/neurowords-and-the-burden-of-responsibility/#comment-31401</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Poston]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2012 00:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The debate has always been massively confused about the difference between justice (in its negative form, punishing the guilty), and the more useful social function of deterrence.  I may hear voices in my head, telling me to do things:  but if you can persuade me that I do not want the results of doing those things, then regardless of whether you have cured me, or made it clear that those things are abstractly Wrong, you can sometimes stop me doing them.  Threats are one way to achieve this persuasion, though not the only way.

Vengeance is an unhealthy act (for a person, or a society): deterrence is more rational.

If people are seen as escaping by way of psychiatric technicalities, this makes the threat less effective, and reduces the social benefit of punishment as deterrence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The debate has always been massively confused about the difference between justice (in its negative form, punishing the guilty), and the more useful social function of deterrence.  I may hear voices in my head, telling me to do things:  but if you can persuade me that I do not want the results of doing those things, then regardless of whether you have cured me, or made it clear that those things are abstractly Wrong, you can sometimes stop me doing them.  Threats are one way to achieve this persuasion, though not the only way.</p>
<p>Vengeance is an unhealthy act (for a person, or a society): deterrence is more rational.</p>
<p>If people are seen as escaping by way of psychiatric technicalities, this makes the threat less effective, and reduces the social benefit of punishment as deterrence.</p>
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		<title>By: ninjanurse</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2012/07/28/neurowords-and-the-burden-of-responsibility/#comment-31382</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2012 16:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[interesting. I thought this would be about the effect of language on the brain. Some words carry an emotional weight.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>interesting. I thought this would be about the effect of language on the brain. Some words carry an emotional weight.</p>
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