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	<title>Comments on: No, the web is not driving us mad</title>
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		<title>By: naturesson</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2012/07/13/no-the-web-is-not-driving-us-mad/#comment-31965</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[naturesson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2012 17:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It may be an exaggeration to say that the Internet is making people crazy but that doesn&#039;t mean it could not be a factor in the general craziness of out time. I don&#039;t think it&#039;s healthy that so much of society has moved on-line and is only accessible through a computer. We are seeing young people becoming alienated from ordinary social life, to the extent that they are exhibiting autism-like disconnection from society. In fact, I have for long wondered if social media could be behind the fad of diagnosing (and self-diagnosing) &quot;high-functioning autism.&quot; Genuinely autistic individuals do exist, of course, but I suspect that many people are falsely diagnosed as mildly autistic because they are so immersed in Internet culture and from such an early age that they missed out on normal socialization.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It may be an exaggeration to say that the Internet is making people crazy but that doesn&#8217;t mean it could not be a factor in the general craziness of out time. I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s healthy that so much of society has moved on-line and is only accessible through a computer. We are seeing young people becoming alienated from ordinary social life, to the extent that they are exhibiting autism-like disconnection from society. In fact, I have for long wondered if social media could be behind the fad of diagnosing (and self-diagnosing) &#8220;high-functioning autism.&#8221; Genuinely autistic individuals do exist, of course, but I suspect that many people are falsely diagnosed as mildly autistic because they are so immersed in Internet culture and from such an early age that they missed out on normal socialization.</p>
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		<title>By: DH</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2012/07/13/no-the-web-is-not-driving-us-mad/#comment-31393</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DH]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2012 21:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well put, and touching in your transparency. Good wishes for keeping on with balanced approaches to life &amp; the information age!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well put, and touching in your transparency. Good wishes for keeping on with balanced approaches to life &amp; the information age!</p>
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		<title>By: DH</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2012/07/13/no-the-web-is-not-driving-us-mad/#comment-31390</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DH]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2012 20:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amen...everyone should read Fr. Walter J. Ong, the high priest of literacy studies. Literacy causes a neurological shift in every individual who acquires it and it can only be learned in dissociation from the tribe, from nature and from one&#039;s own bodily processes. Literacy is an inherently dissociative process in which sight comes to dominate all other sensory inter-connectedness. It also revolutionized society: democritization of knowledge via Gutenberg&#039;s  printing of the Bible (forbidden by the ruling elite of the day, the Catholic Church) &amp; the German Peasants&#039; Revolt. The new individual &amp; societal worlds of post-literacy are causing equally seismic paradigm shifts, computer literacy is an even more bodily dissociative process than was literacy, so we absolutely must develop new ways of mindful usage of it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen&#8230;everyone should read Fr. Walter J. Ong, the high priest of literacy studies. Literacy causes a neurological shift in every individual who acquires it and it can only be learned in dissociation from the tribe, from nature and from one&#8217;s own bodily processes. Literacy is an inherently dissociative process in which sight comes to dominate all other sensory inter-connectedness. It also revolutionized society: democritization of knowledge via Gutenberg&#8217;s  printing of the Bible (forbidden by the ruling elite of the day, the Catholic Church) &amp; the German Peasants&#8217; Revolt. The new individual &amp; societal worlds of post-literacy are causing equally seismic paradigm shifts, computer literacy is an even more bodily dissociative process than was literacy, so we absolutely must develop new ways of mindful usage of it.</p>
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		<title>By: lenawhite</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2012/07/13/no-the-web-is-not-driving-us-mad/#comment-31202</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lenawhite]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2012 02:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reminds me of the fellow who read the dictionary to save time, because all the other books were in there.  I think it was either Groucho Marx or Hawkeye Pierce.  Probably both.

Newsweek used to be good, now it&#039;s god-awful.  Even that hack George Will quit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reminds me of the fellow who read the dictionary to save time, because all the other books were in there.  I think it was either Groucho Marx or Hawkeye Pierce.  Probably both.</p>
<p>Newsweek used to be good, now it&#8217;s god-awful.  Even that hack George Will quit.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Jones</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2012/07/13/no-the-web-is-not-driving-us-mad/#comment-31154</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Graham Jones]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 05:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great post. As a specialist Internet Psychologist I am regularly interviewed by the media about the so-called &quot;dangers&quot; of the web. Frequently I find myself countering the ill-informed speculation of Baroness Greenfield. But she is not alone. I was interviewed for an article a while back which was headlined &quot;Facebook causes cancer&quot; (I kid you not...!). But that was quickly followed by an article which said &quot;Facebook leads to syphilis&quot;...! (No, I&#039;m not making this up.)

The history of the introduction of new technologies shows that there is always fear and backlash. The Gartner Hype Cycle calls this the &quot;trough of disillusionment&quot;. The Newsweek article is merely an indication that this is where we are in terms of the development of the Internet. Hold on tight, we&#039;re going to rock around the bottom of this trough for a while, but look forward a few years and we&#039;ll reach the &quot;plateau of productivity&quot; after we have been up the &quot;slope of enlightenment&quot;.

What this all means is that before too long, the naysayers will be consigned to the &quot;don&#039;t bother contacting&quot; list by journalists.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. As a specialist Internet Psychologist I am regularly interviewed by the media about the so-called &#8220;dangers&#8221; of the web. Frequently I find myself countering the ill-informed speculation of Baroness Greenfield. But she is not alone. I was interviewed for an article a while back which was headlined &#8220;Facebook causes cancer&#8221; (I kid you not&#8230;!). But that was quickly followed by an article which said &#8220;Facebook leads to syphilis&#8221;&#8230;! (No, I&#8217;m not making this up.)</p>
<p>The history of the introduction of new technologies shows that there is always fear and backlash. The Gartner Hype Cycle calls this the &#8220;trough of disillusionment&#8221;. The Newsweek article is merely an indication that this is where we are in terms of the development of the Internet. Hold on tight, we&#8217;re going to rock around the bottom of this trough for a while, but look forward a few years and we&#8217;ll reach the &#8220;plateau of productivity&#8221; after we have been up the &#8220;slope of enlightenment&#8221;.</p>
<p>What this all means is that before too long, the naysayers will be consigned to the &#8220;don&#8217;t bother contacting&#8221; list by journalists.</p>
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		<title>By: plexity</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2012/07/13/no-the-web-is-not-driving-us-mad/#comment-31111</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[plexity]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2012 08:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pure wisdom from Vaughan in response to pure drivel from Newsweek and &#039;professer&#039; Susan Thingy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pure wisdom from Vaughan in response to pure drivel from Newsweek and &#8216;professer&#8217; Susan Thingy.</p>
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		<title>By: Ask LH: Is The Internet Really Making Me Stupid, Crazy And Constantly Distracted? &#124; Lifehacker Australia</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2012/07/13/no-the-web-is-not-driving-us-mad/#comment-31098</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ask LH: Is The Internet Really Making Me Stupid, Crazy And Constantly Distracted? &#124; Lifehacker Australia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2012 01:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] problem, as both Mind Hacks and Time point out, is that Newsweek&#8217;s choice of studies is far from stellar. Some are older [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] problem, as both Mind Hacks and Time point out, is that Newsweek&#8217;s choice of studies is far from stellar. Some are older [...]</p>
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		<title>By: kalitormensa</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2012/07/13/no-the-web-is-not-driving-us-mad/#comment-30991</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kalitormensa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2012 08:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love this, it encapsulates all the crude oversimplifications and truths evenly mixed to confuse the most season advocate and naysayer all in one full swoop....which I think was purposefully done.    The Intenet is but humanity&#039;s mind on full display: deal with it.   It&#039;s the best entertainment going.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this, it encapsulates all the crude oversimplifications and truths evenly mixed to confuse the most season advocate and naysayer all in one full swoop&#8230;.which I think was purposefully done.    The Intenet is but humanity&#8217;s mind on full display: deal with it.   It&#8217;s the best entertainment going.</p>
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		<title>By: nskeptic</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2012/07/13/no-the-web-is-not-driving-us-mad/#comment-30881</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2012 18:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The latest example of a magazine resorting to front-cover trolling to get attention.

Back in the Age of Paper, all a magazine had to do was print good articles and people would read them.

But nowadays, the internet does that for free and even if a magazine does publish a good piece, someone will summarize it on their blog and people will read that rather than buy a whole magazine for one article.

The solution seems to be to write bad articles and put them on the front cover, then reap the free publicity from all the critics.

It won&#039;t work though, because blogs can also do that, better than magazines can.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The latest example of a magazine resorting to front-cover trolling to get attention.</p>
<p>Back in the Age of Paper, all a magazine had to do was print good articles and people would read them.</p>
<p>But nowadays, the internet does that for free and even if a magazine does publish a good piece, someone will summarize it on their blog and people will read that rather than buy a whole magazine for one article.</p>
<p>The solution seems to be to write bad articles and put them on the front cover, then reap the free publicity from all the critics.</p>
<p>It won&#8217;t work though, because blogs can also do that, better than magazines can.</p>
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		<title>By: The Peak Oil Poet</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2012/07/13/no-the-web-is-not-driving-us-mad/#comment-30839</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Peak Oil Poet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2012 20:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yes you are right - some people do not understand

many years ago when i was a real hot-shot straight A undergrad in computer science - smartest of the students at my uni and held in awe by many - i worked also for a start-up that had employed a top line programmer from overseas - he was like a god.

He used to tell me about &quot;panic attacks&quot; and i assumed there was something wrong with him as no such thing could possibly happen to normal people.  

That was then - i&#039;ve learned since then what it is to suffer an attack of panic.

Now i have true understanding of that subject.

A lot of people think schizophrenia is a disease of the brain when there is little evidence to support that even though nobody would deny that someone suffering from the psychoses and paranoia is obviously suffering.

We all assume that psychotics have a disease that is a lifetime affliction and consequently we treat them that way and we fill them full of incredibly damaging drugs that actually make such people worse.

What if psychosis is a natural, 100% normal way for people to deal with certain life situations?

Maybe some people more readily succumb to such life situations.

It&#039;s not the internet itself that &quot;causes&quot; psychosis. It&#039;s also not the individual who is already psychotic.

It&#039;s that certain natural behaviours of humans (eg &quot;falling in love&quot;, going through divorce...) that are naturally totally intense may, when carried out over the medium of writing, almost instantaneous writing, be so much more intense that the culmination may be too much for some people to handle - and so may end up flipping out.

I&#039;ve seen people become quite psychotic when under enormous stress.

I&#039;ve experienced myself - and mine was all wrapped up with the use of email 20 years ago when the net was in its infancy.

Back then after years of reading psych books i came to the conclusion that such use of the net could indeed lead to psychosis and i was not alone in that view - it was not uncommon for others who had had such experiences to end up in therapy and such cases were reported in the press.

It&#039;s not the net but it is psychosis brought on while using the net, intensified by the medium.


Ignorance can lead people to do one of two things: you can either rubbish what you hear or you can look for the grain of truth

it&#039;s the truly bright person that does the latter

most of us are the fools that do the former


pop]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes you are right &#8211; some people do not understand</p>
<p>many years ago when i was a real hot-shot straight A undergrad in computer science &#8211; smartest of the students at my uni and held in awe by many &#8211; i worked also for a start-up that had employed a top line programmer from overseas &#8211; he was like a god.</p>
<p>He used to tell me about &#8220;panic attacks&#8221; and i assumed there was something wrong with him as no such thing could possibly happen to normal people.  </p>
<p>That was then &#8211; i&#8217;ve learned since then what it is to suffer an attack of panic.</p>
<p>Now i have true understanding of that subject.</p>
<p>A lot of people think schizophrenia is a disease of the brain when there is little evidence to support that even though nobody would deny that someone suffering from the psychoses and paranoia is obviously suffering.</p>
<p>We all assume that psychotics have a disease that is a lifetime affliction and consequently we treat them that way and we fill them full of incredibly damaging drugs that actually make such people worse.</p>
<p>What if psychosis is a natural, 100% normal way for people to deal with certain life situations?</p>
<p>Maybe some people more readily succumb to such life situations.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not the internet itself that &#8220;causes&#8221; psychosis. It&#8217;s also not the individual who is already psychotic.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s that certain natural behaviours of humans (eg &#8220;falling in love&#8221;, going through divorce&#8230;) that are naturally totally intense may, when carried out over the medium of writing, almost instantaneous writing, be so much more intense that the culmination may be too much for some people to handle &#8211; and so may end up flipping out.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen people become quite psychotic when under enormous stress.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve experienced myself &#8211; and mine was all wrapped up with the use of email 20 years ago when the net was in its infancy.</p>
<p>Back then after years of reading psych books i came to the conclusion that such use of the net could indeed lead to psychosis and i was not alone in that view &#8211; it was not uncommon for others who had had such experiences to end up in therapy and such cases were reported in the press.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not the net but it is psychosis brought on while using the net, intensified by the medium.</p>
<p>Ignorance can lead people to do one of two things: you can either rubbish what you hear or you can look for the grain of truth</p>
<p>it&#8217;s the truly bright person that does the latter</p>
<p>most of us are the fools that do the former</p>
<p>pop</p>
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