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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2012/04/04/the-complex-motivations-for-self-harm/#comment-60837</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Apr 2013 03:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I did it for the a lot of the same reason you are talking about. Cutting literally calmed me down. When I tried to explain it to my counselor I told her it was like a small child who is crying uncontrollably but there is that one object that will calm him/her down...a blanket, toy, etc. For me, it was the blade. It was almost like I was mesmerized by the action, all my focus was put into making the cut(s).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did it for the a lot of the same reason you are talking about. Cutting literally calmed me down. When I tried to explain it to my counselor I told her it was like a small child who is crying uncontrollably but there is that one object that will calm him/her down&#8230;a blanket, toy, etc. For me, it was the blade. It was almost like I was mesmerized by the action, all my focus was put into making the cut(s).</p>
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		<title>By: Judy</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2012/04/04/the-complex-motivations-for-self-harm/#comment-27797</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2012 20:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It seems quite clear, as others have posted, that self harm is a method of regulating overwhelming emotions. I think it&#039;s important to point out that it is also not new. For instance there are many accounts of people gashing and scratching themselves at funeral ceremonies in various cultures. This is often seen as not only normal but laudable, as a sign of grief. It is extreme and can be dangerous, but the impulse is not crazy or bad. It is a sign that less drastic coping mechanisms are overwhelmed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems quite clear, as others have posted, that self harm is a method of regulating overwhelming emotions. I think it&#8217;s important to point out that it is also not new. For instance there are many accounts of people gashing and scratching themselves at funeral ceremonies in various cultures. This is often seen as not only normal but laudable, as a sign of grief. It is extreme and can be dangerous, but the impulse is not crazy or bad. It is a sign that less drastic coping mechanisms are overwhelmed.</p>
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		<title>By: alicatzen</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2012/04/04/the-complex-motivations-for-self-harm/#comment-26476</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 05:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear anon, 
I really hope you find a solution besides &#039;ultimate self-control&#039; if by that you mean suicide. 
I have had an early life full of abuse. I&#039;ve been on a real roller-coaster. 
When suicide took one of my friends, I took a look at its position in my life as being a last resort, my worst case scenario where I was still making the choice and had some control. Then I looked at the friends, families and community that my friend tore apart. It was a dispersal of her pain into everyone in her life, never to be healed. 
Sadly it also meant that whatever it was she was meant to become, someone strong and vibrant, as she learned to overcome and grow from her experiences, it was snuffed out along with all she might have been able to offer to others facing the same challenges. There will forever be a Natalie shaped hole in the universe rippling through the space-time of future humans who&#039;s lives will never be touched by her.

I still see suicide as the worst possible scenario, but now it is one that I pull back from, it is the line I choose not to cross. I use it as a tool to gain perspective and courage to do things that may have been considered too radical or severe, but compared to suicide, they become viable options. I have moved towns many times, changed entire sets of friends just as many times. I have sold or given away EVERYTHING, or near everything and walked away, started fresh and felt liberated.
My issues and lessons follow me, but I see them with fresh eyes, and that gives me a chance to learn from them and move on. If I can learn from a horrible experience, then I can detach my emotions from it and I don&#039;t feel like it was a complete tragedy if I have grown stronger from the experience. 
My friend killed herself, some who loved her went nuts others switched their feelings off and never loved again, I grew strong and learned to overcome the pain by focusing on the lessons within each experience. Even though she is gone now, I&#039;m so glad she was in my life even if that means experiencing that pain. My life is richer for it!
  
Life still has pain and suffering and things I can&#039;t control, but I&#039;ve come to realize that is a natural part of life. I have turned to philosophy, Taoism, Zen Buddhism, Wabi Sabi, Fur Yu, even finding much wisdom in Sci-fi, modern and classic literature. 
In my experience there is wisdom everywhere. 
For instance something i like to do regularly is: Ask a question, put it out there, let it go into the world around me and go about my day as normal, open myself up to the answer and it will find me, it will come often from the most unlikely places or chance encounters.  

This has helped shape the way I see the world/universe around me, as a living breathing quite possibly sentient interconnected thing. I feel always supported and provided for, I feel connected to something bigger than me, something good, so I can let go of that feeling of terror and just float down stream, enjoying the ride. 

Walt Disney said &quot;Keep moving forwards.&quot;

Abraham Hicks said &quot;Everything you want is downstream, you don&#039;t ever have to struggle against the current, just relax and let your boat flow down stream&quot;

Fur Yu means &quot;Wind and Stream&quot;
Wabi Sabi is about &#039;the effect time has on things&#039;. And the &#039;beauty of imperfection&#039;.
Taoism Means &quot;The Way.&quot; it is ancient Chinese poetry describing observations of the natural laws of the universe. 

I found all of these things very soothing and uplifting. I hope you find your way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear anon,<br />
I really hope you find a solution besides &#8216;ultimate self-control&#8217; if by that you mean suicide.<br />
I have had an early life full of abuse. I&#8217;ve been on a real roller-coaster.<br />
When suicide took one of my friends, I took a look at its position in my life as being a last resort, my worst case scenario where I was still making the choice and had some control. Then I looked at the friends, families and community that my friend tore apart. It was a dispersal of her pain into everyone in her life, never to be healed.<br />
Sadly it also meant that whatever it was she was meant to become, someone strong and vibrant, as she learned to overcome and grow from her experiences, it was snuffed out along with all she might have been able to offer to others facing the same challenges. There will forever be a Natalie shaped hole in the universe rippling through the space-time of future humans who&#8217;s lives will never be touched by her.</p>
<p>I still see suicide as the worst possible scenario, but now it is one that I pull back from, it is the line I choose not to cross. I use it as a tool to gain perspective and courage to do things that may have been considered too radical or severe, but compared to suicide, they become viable options. I have moved towns many times, changed entire sets of friends just as many times. I have sold or given away EVERYTHING, or near everything and walked away, started fresh and felt liberated.<br />
My issues and lessons follow me, but I see them with fresh eyes, and that gives me a chance to learn from them and move on. If I can learn from a horrible experience, then I can detach my emotions from it and I don&#8217;t feel like it was a complete tragedy if I have grown stronger from the experience.<br />
My friend killed herself, some who loved her went nuts others switched their feelings off and never loved again, I grew strong and learned to overcome the pain by focusing on the lessons within each experience. Even though she is gone now, I&#8217;m so glad she was in my life even if that means experiencing that pain. My life is richer for it!</p>
<p>Life still has pain and suffering and things I can&#8217;t control, but I&#8217;ve come to realize that is a natural part of life. I have turned to philosophy, Taoism, Zen Buddhism, Wabi Sabi, Fur Yu, even finding much wisdom in Sci-fi, modern and classic literature.<br />
In my experience there is wisdom everywhere.<br />
For instance something i like to do regularly is: Ask a question, put it out there, let it go into the world around me and go about my day as normal, open myself up to the answer and it will find me, it will come often from the most unlikely places or chance encounters.  </p>
<p>This has helped shape the way I see the world/universe around me, as a living breathing quite possibly sentient interconnected thing. I feel always supported and provided for, I feel connected to something bigger than me, something good, so I can let go of that feeling of terror and just float down stream, enjoying the ride. </p>
<p>Walt Disney said &#8220;Keep moving forwards.&#8221;</p>
<p>Abraham Hicks said &#8220;Everything you want is downstream, you don&#8217;t ever have to struggle against the current, just relax and let your boat flow down stream&#8221;</p>
<p>Fur Yu means &#8220;Wind and Stream&#8221;<br />
Wabi Sabi is about &#8216;the effect time has on things&#8217;. And the &#8216;beauty of imperfection&#8217;.<br />
Taoism Means &#8220;The Way.&#8221; it is ancient Chinese poetry describing observations of the natural laws of the universe. </p>
<p>I found all of these things very soothing and uplifting. I hope you find your way.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2012/04/04/the-complex-motivations-for-self-harm/#comment-26467</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2012 13:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As an older person who&#039;d never had any such inclinations before, it was shocking to me that I suddenly started self harming after several years of being terrifyingly stalked and the police and other responsible authorities not doing a thing about it.

The terror of being stalked and the probably even worse trauma of the authorities not caring a fig (and, worse, their mind-bending excuses and lies for not doing anything and trying their darndest to &#039;make me go away&#039;) was beyond shocking and overwhelming.

I stopped self harming as I began to think about the phenomenon more rationally. I worked out that essentially both the offender and the authorities were working to damage me in their own ways and that the ONLY way I could feel some control in the total mess they&#039;d made of my life was to do the damage myself.

Then I gradually decided that I had to find other ways of wresting back control and stopped harming. I still don&#039;t have the normal, healthy measure of control of my life because the offending continues and the police and other authorities are factually, evidentially negligent still (I&#039;ve already won a legal case for negligence and abuse against one statutory authority). But I feel a bit better because I&#039;ve decided that I&#039;ll probably utilise the ultimate self-control one of these days.

No one can live even half-way healthily when one is under attack and being &#039;gaslighted&#039; by those who have a duty of care.

My take on self-harm now is that behind every case is a hidden history of disgusting psychological and physical abuse. The professionals definitely don&#039;t help either as they generally just cannot grasp that other &#039;reputable&#039; authorities and their own colleagues can perpetrate such horrors on vulnerable patients/clients/service users. The blame is forced onto the poor self-harmer as if she or he exists in a vacuum where the self-harm somehow magically appears from nowhere but the individual&#039;s mind. Total nonsense of course, but this really IS the way professionals and &#039;helping&#039; agencies ego-defend themselves.

Thus, as far as I see it, self-harm is probably entirely the outward and visible sign of the deeply dark side of human beings and their often appalling covert aggression towards more vulnerable and disadvantaged others. 

c.f. RD Laing: &#039;If the patient is disturbed then the family is disturbing.&#039;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an older person who&#8217;d never had any such inclinations before, it was shocking to me that I suddenly started self harming after several years of being terrifyingly stalked and the police and other responsible authorities not doing a thing about it.</p>
<p>The terror of being stalked and the probably even worse trauma of the authorities not caring a fig (and, worse, their mind-bending excuses and lies for not doing anything and trying their darndest to &#8216;make me go away&#8217;) was beyond shocking and overwhelming.</p>
<p>I stopped self harming as I began to think about the phenomenon more rationally. I worked out that essentially both the offender and the authorities were working to damage me in their own ways and that the ONLY way I could feel some control in the total mess they&#8217;d made of my life was to do the damage myself.</p>
<p>Then I gradually decided that I had to find other ways of wresting back control and stopped harming. I still don&#8217;t have the normal, healthy measure of control of my life because the offending continues and the police and other authorities are factually, evidentially negligent still (I&#8217;ve already won a legal case for negligence and abuse against one statutory authority). But I feel a bit better because I&#8217;ve decided that I&#8217;ll probably utilise the ultimate self-control one of these days.</p>
<p>No one can live even half-way healthily when one is under attack and being &#8216;gaslighted&#8217; by those who have a duty of care.</p>
<p>My take on self-harm now is that behind every case is a hidden history of disgusting psychological and physical abuse. The professionals definitely don&#8217;t help either as they generally just cannot grasp that other &#8216;reputable&#8217; authorities and their own colleagues can perpetrate such horrors on vulnerable patients/clients/service users. The blame is forced onto the poor self-harmer as if she or he exists in a vacuum where the self-harm somehow magically appears from nowhere but the individual&#8217;s mind. Total nonsense of course, but this really IS the way professionals and &#8216;helping&#8217; agencies ego-defend themselves.</p>
<p>Thus, as far as I see it, self-harm is probably entirely the outward and visible sign of the deeply dark side of human beings and their often appalling covert aggression towards more vulnerable and disadvantaged others. </p>
<p>c.f. RD Laing: &#8216;If the patient is disturbed then the family is disturbing.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Robin Shapiro</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2012/04/04/the-complex-motivations-for-self-harm/#comment-26461</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2012 06:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Research shows that cutting creates an inside-the-body opiate response, which is the numbing sensation. Ulrich Lanius and others write about this opiate response being a form of dissociation. 

So glad you found other ways to soothe yourself!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Research shows that cutting creates an inside-the-body opiate response, which is the numbing sensation. Ulrich Lanius and others write about this opiate response being a form of dissociation. </p>
<p>So glad you found other ways to soothe yourself!</p>
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		<title>By: Peder</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2012/04/04/the-complex-motivations-for-self-harm/#comment-26457</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2012 23:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a psychiatrist who works with Mentalization Based Treatment for BPD I would consider self-harm as a way of regulating overwhelming emotions.
There are, as seen in the comments, other gains from scaring, bandaging etc. I&#039;d consider those as secondary for most.
It is also my experience that most of the clients I&#039;ve had don&#039;t show their cuts to others.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a psychiatrist who works with Mentalization Based Treatment for BPD I would consider self-harm as a way of regulating overwhelming emotions.<br />
There are, as seen in the comments, other gains from scaring, bandaging etc. I&#8217;d consider those as secondary for most.<br />
It is also my experience that most of the clients I&#8217;ve had don&#8217;t show their cuts to others.</p>
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		<title>By: See Bee</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[See Bee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2012 00:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a former cutter I would identity with using cutting to handle emotional pain and also with using the scars as a reminder of that pain. For the weeks following a cutting I &#039;liked&#039; to feel the scars under my clothes - well, I didn&#039;t like it but it was a distraction. 
Also like Deloris I switched to cutting my thighs as I they last thing I wanted was for others to see the scars on my wrists.
I haven&#039;t cut myself in 5 years. BTW I&#039;m a 45 year old male.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a former cutter I would identity with using cutting to handle emotional pain and also with using the scars as a reminder of that pain. For the weeks following a cutting I &#8216;liked&#8217; to feel the scars under my clothes &#8211; well, I didn&#8217;t like it but it was a distraction.<br />
Also like Deloris I switched to cutting my thighs as I they last thing I wanted was for others to see the scars on my wrists.<br />
I haven&#8217;t cut myself in 5 years. BTW I&#8217;m a 45 year old male.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2012/04/04/the-complex-motivations-for-self-harm/#comment-26429</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2012 13:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can&#039;t read article because it is locked but when I used to self-harm it was to do with control.

I felt emotionally out of control - cutting made me feel calm.

I wonder if cutting releases something that causes a calming sensation?

I only cut in places that could be fully covered and unseen by anyone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t read article because it is locked but when I used to self-harm it was to do with control.</p>
<p>I felt emotionally out of control &#8211; cutting made me feel calm.</p>
<p>I wonder if cutting releases something that causes a calming sensation?</p>
<p>I only cut in places that could be fully covered and unseen by anyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2012 17:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What about self-harm as a form of personal self restraint?  I have been known to bite and scratch myself rather than disintegrate into a physical fight with others.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about self-harm as a form of personal self restraint?  I have been known to bite and scratch myself rather than disintegrate into a physical fight with others.</p>
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		<title>By: victoriaphantasmagoria</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2012 14:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Deloris Lee,

A story that describes reasons similar to yours is included in the book &quot;the boy who was raised as a dog&quot; by Bruce Perry and Maia Szalavitz. A lot of detail is given about why cutting could have that effect. You might be interested in it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Deloris Lee,</p>
<p>A story that describes reasons similar to yours is included in the book &#8220;the boy who was raised as a dog&#8221; by Bruce Perry and Maia Szalavitz. A lot of detail is given about why cutting could have that effect. You might be interested in it.</p>
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