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		<title>By: uneulv</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2011/09/28/the-chaos-behind-a-legendary-portrait/#comment-21877</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2011 17:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, this is supposed to be a portrait of his brother and your idea about the absinthe is not convincing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, this is supposed to be a portrait of his brother and your idea about the absinthe is not convincing.</p>
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		<title>By: Niru</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 22:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I attempted to brew my own in 1988.
My memory of that is pretty comparable to (supposedly)pre-ban and post-ban absinthe I&#039;ve tasted.

Terribly, terribly bitter stuff. 

And not terribly interesting, compared to any other alcoholic drink.

I&#039;d also like to say something about this mythology of Vincent Van Gogh as some &quot;impaired mad genius&quot;.

Vincent Van Gogh - from a personal, life-perspective, may have had emotional issues, but I highly doubt he had much cognitive impairment going on when it came to his technical, artistic skill. 

If you study his work as I have, you will observe that he was doing some very sophisticated thinking, about form, and color, and even some very cutting-edge human perception science. If you understand the technical complexity of Seurat&#039;s work, then you&#039;ll understand that Van Gogh&#039;s technique had all of Seurat&#039;s rigor - plus the sensitive expressionist/impressionist content. (not sterile and analytical, like most early pointillists).  

For the post-Impressionist period, he had no peer. It&#039;s also a mistake to say that he was an unsuccessful artist.  Unlucky perhaps. Maybe, not as skilled a businessman.  Before he painted, he also drew, and he was an extremely skilled draftsman, and he made a modest living selling drawings.  It was unfortunate that when he became a painter, the works he made were perhaps not as well-promoted as some of his more famous peers, and this was certainly a large part of the reason why his more avant-garde work was not found to be in-fashion with the contemporary art world, until after his notorious death.  Such is the unpleasant world, and ugly business of Fine Art.  This is not the popular view of Vincent Van Gogh, but it is the more scholarly view.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I attempted to brew my own in 1988.<br />
My memory of that is pretty comparable to (supposedly)pre-ban and post-ban absinthe I&#8217;ve tasted.</p>
<p>Terribly, terribly bitter stuff. </p>
<p>And not terribly interesting, compared to any other alcoholic drink.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also like to say something about this mythology of Vincent Van Gogh as some &#8220;impaired mad genius&#8221;.</p>
<p>Vincent Van Gogh &#8211; from a personal, life-perspective, may have had emotional issues, but I highly doubt he had much cognitive impairment going on when it came to his technical, artistic skill. </p>
<p>If you study his work as I have, you will observe that he was doing some very sophisticated thinking, about form, and color, and even some very cutting-edge human perception science. If you understand the technical complexity of Seurat&#8217;s work, then you&#8217;ll understand that Van Gogh&#8217;s technique had all of Seurat&#8217;s rigor &#8211; plus the sensitive expressionist/impressionist content. (not sterile and analytical, like most early pointillists).  </p>
<p>For the post-Impressionist period, he had no peer. It&#8217;s also a mistake to say that he was an unsuccessful artist.  Unlucky perhaps. Maybe, not as skilled a businessman.  Before he painted, he also drew, and he was an extremely skilled draftsman, and he made a modest living selling drawings.  It was unfortunate that when he became a painter, the works he made were perhaps not as well-promoted as some of his more famous peers, and this was certainly a large part of the reason why his more avant-garde work was not found to be in-fashion with the contemporary art world, until after his notorious death.  Such is the unpleasant world, and ugly business of Fine Art.  This is not the popular view of Vincent Van Gogh, but it is the more scholarly view.</p>
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		<title>By: sebzskp</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2011/09/28/the-chaos-behind-a-legendary-portrait/#comment-21821</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 18:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Green Fairy</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 15:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love it when people don&#039;t know what the hell they are talking about. I have had Absinthe, real Absinthe now the now legalized soft core version with minuscule amounts if any at all Thujone. I would hardly call the Thujone content minuscule. Wormwood is the source of the Thujone and it is terribly bitter stuff, all the other ingredients in the stuff are a feeble attempt to cover the taste of the wormwood. The effects are still mild by comparison to modern weed but similar in nature with stronger visual effect than weed. To say it has no psychoactive effect is pure ignorance. That said it has no greater effect on a stable mind as any other psychoactive substance. He was clearly a nut-job.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love it when people don&#8217;t know what the hell they are talking about. I have had Absinthe, real Absinthe now the now legalized soft core version with minuscule amounts if any at all Thujone. I would hardly call the Thujone content minuscule. Wormwood is the source of the Thujone and it is terribly bitter stuff, all the other ingredients in the stuff are a feeble attempt to cover the taste of the wormwood. The effects are still mild by comparison to modern weed but similar in nature with stronger visual effect than weed. To say it has no psychoactive effect is pure ignorance. That said it has no greater effect on a stable mind as any other psychoactive substance. He was clearly a nut-job.</p>
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		<title>By: Ari</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ari]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 02:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh certainly, while there were plenty of good, high quality brands, there were some that used known and unknown poisons in their products.  As annoying as the FDA can be, it&#039;s so nice to have a government food regulator that looks down on poisoning the customer.

Van Gogh is an interesting case and there are plenty of different theories and papers about his &#039;madness&#039;.  I find it a bit sad that he was fully aware of his condition and spent his life battling it while society hindered his progress.  Luckily he left behind his own thoughts on the matter in the form of letters to family members, especially his brother Theo.  I would like to think that if he was around now he would have gotten the help he needed.  Van Gogh is a great example of the myth of the depressed/crazy artist as most of his work was done during lucid sane periods of his life.

IMO his exact disease will always remain hazy partly because he knew about it and was self medicated or forcefully medicated.  Since some madness cures were worse than the disease, I expect there were a combination of things driving him mad.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh certainly, while there were plenty of good, high quality brands, there were some that used known and unknown poisons in their products.  As annoying as the FDA can be, it&#8217;s so nice to have a government food regulator that looks down on poisoning the customer.</p>
<p>Van Gogh is an interesting case and there are plenty of different theories and papers about his &#8216;madness&#8217;.  I find it a bit sad that he was fully aware of his condition and spent his life battling it while society hindered his progress.  Luckily he left behind his own thoughts on the matter in the form of letters to family members, especially his brother Theo.  I would like to think that if he was around now he would have gotten the help he needed.  Van Gogh is a great example of the myth of the depressed/crazy artist as most of his work was done during lucid sane periods of his life.</p>
<p>IMO his exact disease will always remain hazy partly because he knew about it and was self medicated or forcefully medicated.  Since some madness cures were worse than the disease, I expect there were a combination of things driving him mad.</p>
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		<title>By: sebzskp</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2011/09/28/the-chaos-behind-a-legendary-portrait/#comment-21790</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 19:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good point! However, Van Gogh was a contemporary of preban absinthe (i.e. before 1915). Commercial production at that time did not necessarily mean quality as it does nowadays.
We will probably never know whether his madness was linked to alcoholism or a pre-existing condition, or both.
Either way, the article is original and interesting to read.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point! However, Van Gogh was a contemporary of preban absinthe (i.e. before 1915). Commercial production at that time did not necessarily mean quality as it does nowadays.<br />
We will probably never know whether his madness was linked to alcoholism or a pre-existing condition, or both.<br />
Either way, the article is original and interesting to read.</p>
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		<title>By: Ari</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ari]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 18:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@sebzskp
Around the time Van Gogh was drinking, absinthe was in full commercial production.  While there were plenty of low quality bottles floating around, Van Gogh often drank at bars that I assume served a commercial product.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@sebzskp<br />
Around the time Van Gogh was drinking, absinthe was in full commercial production.  While there were plenty of low quality bottles floating around, Van Gogh often drank at bars that I assume served a commercial product.</p>
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		<title>By: frank laroi</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[frank laroi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 11:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hi vaughan! nice article. the other day someone mentioned (perhaps it was tony david) that the fact that van gogh cut off his ear might be related to a hallucination he was experiencing at the moment. the idea being that he cut off part(s) of his ear in order to stop hearing the voice which perhaps van gogh perceived as originating in/near his ear. any thoughts on this hypothesis? can it be backed up with facts?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi vaughan! nice article. the other day someone mentioned (perhaps it was tony david) that the fact that van gogh cut off his ear might be related to a hallucination he was experiencing at the moment. the idea being that he cut off part(s) of his ear in order to stop hearing the voice which perhaps van gogh perceived as originating in/near his ear. any thoughts on this hypothesis? can it be backed up with facts?</p>
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		<title>By: sebzskp</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sebzskp]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 11:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great finding Mind Hacks!

Just a quick remark about absinthe. I had never heard of the &quot;special ingredient&quot; in absinthe before. However, absinth produced at the time of VanGogh was mainly a homemade, backyard-distilled liquor, using low quality alcohol that probably contained substantial amounts of methanol. Methanol is a potent neurotoxic. Its consumption is known to cause blindness. It is well possible that its regular absorption, maybe combined with other drugs, could have caused madness or epilepsy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great finding Mind Hacks!</p>
<p>Just a quick remark about absinthe. I had never heard of the &#8220;special ingredient&#8221; in absinthe before. However, absinth produced at the time of VanGogh was mainly a homemade, backyard-distilled liquor, using low quality alcohol that probably contained substantial amounts of methanol. Methanol is a potent neurotoxic. Its consumption is known to cause blindness. It is well possible that its regular absorption, maybe combined with other drugs, could have caused madness or epilepsy.</p>
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		<title>By: Dom</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 09:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting article. But its wormwood, not wordwood.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article. But its wormwood, not wordwood.</p>
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