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		<title>By: Rami</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2011/04/18/three-christs-return-and-are-waiting-to-be-won/#comment-18979</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rami]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2011 18:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t forget about the free side effects!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget about the free side effects!!</p>
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		<title>By: Three Christs winner &#171; Mind Hacks</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2011/04/18/three-christs-return-and-are-waiting-to-be-won/#comment-18970</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Three Christs winner &#171; Mind Hacks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2011 01:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] thanks to all who entered our Three Christs competition and what a fantastic response we [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Neil in Chicago</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2011/04/18/three-christs-return-and-are-waiting-to-be-won/#comment-18969</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Neil in Chicago]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2011 00:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[(I jumped down here after the first dozen or two replies, so I may have missed someone else saying the same thing.)
No, curing other patients won&#039;t &quot;prove&quot; that you really aren&#039;t one.
Back in the day I knew a guy who had done plenty of acid who happened to get a job as an orderly in the state nut house.  They put him in the incurable psychotics ward, where he had no interpersonal trouble.
But when patients finally asked, 
&quot;How come you&#039;re out there and I&#039;m in here?&quot; and he answered, &quot;I just don&#039;t talk about it as much,&quot; he ended up getting fired because orderlies aren&#039;t allowed to cure the incurable psychotics.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(I jumped down here after the first dozen or two replies, so I may have missed someone else saying the same thing.)<br />
No, curing other patients won&#8217;t &#8220;prove&#8221; that you really aren&#8217;t one.<br />
Back in the day I knew a guy who had done plenty of acid who happened to get a job as an orderly in the state nut house.  They put him in the incurable psychotics ward, where he had no interpersonal trouble.<br />
But when patients finally asked,<br />
&#8220;How come you&#8217;re out there and I&#8217;m in here?&#8221; and he answered, &#8220;I just don&#8217;t talk about it as much,&#8221; he ended up getting fired because orderlies aren&#8217;t allowed to cure the incurable psychotics.</p>
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		<title>By: David Capell</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2011/04/18/three-christs-return-and-are-waiting-to-be-won/#comment-18962</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Capell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Apr 2011 22:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[clearly the only one you need to convince is yourself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>clearly the only one you need to convince is yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2011/04/18/three-christs-return-and-are-waiting-to-be-won/#comment-18956</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexander]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Apr 2011 18:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[At first I would ask the other psychiatrists if there was some method of separating &quot;those who are or should be patients&quot; from &quot;those who are psychiatrists&quot; beyond a reasonable doubt. 

If there was, I would ask them to use that method to evaluate me (as well as themselves, for comparison) in a transparent manner, and -- assuming my belief isn&#039;t delusional -- and that the method, as well as the other psychiatrists are reasonable and honest, I would pass. 

If there weren&#039;t such a method, it logically follows that we could all be patients and/or doctors at any given time, and that the arbitrary nature of that system would make it very dubious, if not unusable.

If, however, the method was both reasonable and used in a seemingly correct fashion, yet still categorizing me as a patient, I would have to accept that outcome and use it as a working hypothesis for the time being.

(Or I could just show them my student loans.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At first I would ask the other psychiatrists if there was some method of separating &#8220;those who are or should be patients&#8221; from &#8220;those who are psychiatrists&#8221; beyond a reasonable doubt. </p>
<p>If there was, I would ask them to use that method to evaluate me (as well as themselves, for comparison) in a transparent manner, and &#8212; assuming my belief isn&#8217;t delusional &#8212; and that the method, as well as the other psychiatrists are reasonable and honest, I would pass. </p>
<p>If there weren&#8217;t such a method, it logically follows that we could all be patients and/or doctors at any given time, and that the arbitrary nature of that system would make it very dubious, if not unusable.</p>
<p>If, however, the method was both reasonable and used in a seemingly correct fashion, yet still categorizing me as a patient, I would have to accept that outcome and use it as a working hypothesis for the time being.</p>
<p>(Or I could just show them my student loans.)</p>
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		<title>By: Mikael</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2011/04/18/three-christs-return-and-are-waiting-to-be-won/#comment-18954</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mikael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Apr 2011 18:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would simply ask the doctors to re-evaluate my need for any treatment. Since I&#039;m perfectly healthy they would soon find out the real nature of things...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would simply ask the doctors to re-evaluate my need for any treatment. Since I&#8217;m perfectly healthy they would soon find out the real nature of things&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: natselrox</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2011/04/18/three-christs-return-and-are-waiting-to-be-won/#comment-18948</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[natselrox]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Apr 2011 16:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Explain to them that according to Godel, it&#039;ll be impossible for me to prove my true identity in a system where subjects can only be either psychiatrists or patients.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Explain to them that according to Godel, it&#8217;ll be impossible for me to prove my true identity in a system where subjects can only be either psychiatrists or patients.</p>
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		<title>By: efde</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2011/04/18/three-christs-return-and-are-waiting-to-be-won/#comment-18944</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[efde]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Apr 2011 11:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wouldn&#039;t try to convince them. As far as I know myself they are probably right and I am a patient.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t try to convince them. As far as I know myself they are probably right and I am a patient.</p>
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		<title>By: sonya ross</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2011/04/18/three-christs-return-and-are-waiting-to-be-won/#comment-18940</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sonya ross]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Apr 2011 23:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And that my friend hit the nail on the head.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And that my friend hit the nail on the head.</p>
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		<title>By: sonya ross</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2011/04/18/three-christs-return-and-are-waiting-to-be-won/#comment-18939</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sonya ross]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Apr 2011 23:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would take my meds, go to group, eat at mealtime, get along with others, partifipate in art therapy, agree with the psychiatrist, and Ill be let out within a day or two.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would take my meds, go to group, eat at mealtime, get along with others, partifipate in art therapy, agree with the psychiatrist, and Ill be let out within a day or two.</p>
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