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		<title>By: Taking science journalism &#8220;upstream&#8221; &#171; through the looking glass</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2010/08/16/scientists-go-rafting/#comment-9517</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Taking science journalism &#8220;upstream&#8221; &#171; through the looking glass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 11:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] the best argument against upstream science journalism: that it&#8217;d would be boring. Maybe that scientists go rafting feature was a bit dull. But people write dull pieces based on research papers all the time. If a [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the best argument against upstream science journalism: that it&#8217;d would be boring. Maybe that scientists go rafting feature was a bit dull. But people write dull pieces based on research papers all the time. If a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Restructure!</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2010/08/16/scientists-go-rafting/#comment-9118</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Restructure!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 00:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The article is not that odd if you consider lay people&#039;s stereotypes of scientists. 

Lay people do not have the background to understand research methodology or scientific terminology, and just take the scientist&#039;s simplified conclusions at face value. Scientists are seen as sages, and most people focus more on the scientist&#039;s social prestige than on details of a specific research project, which are opaque to them. 

Also, lay people don&#039;t see scientists as normal people, so when scientists go rafting, lay people find it strange and interesting. Again, lay people focus more on the scientist&#039;s scientist-identity than on objects of study, so scientists saying stuff while rafting is equivalent to scientists saying stuff when doing actual research.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article is not that odd if you consider lay people&#8217;s stereotypes of scientists. </p>
<p>Lay people do not have the background to understand research methodology or scientific terminology, and just take the scientist&#8217;s simplified conclusions at face value. Scientists are seen as sages, and most people focus more on the scientist&#8217;s social prestige than on details of a specific research project, which are opaque to them. </p>
<p>Also, lay people don&#8217;t see scientists as normal people, so when scientists go rafting, lay people find it strange and interesting. Again, lay people focus more on the scientist&#8217;s scientist-identity than on objects of study, so scientists saying stuff while rafting is equivalent to scientists saying stuff when doing actual research.</p>
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		<title>By: skagedal</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2010/08/16/scientists-go-rafting/#comment-8894</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 21:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Romeo Vitelli - Of course we would. We just wouldn&#039;t &lt;em&gt;call it&lt;/em&gt; multitasking.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Romeo Vitelli &#8211; Of course we would. We just wouldn&#8217;t <em>call it</em> multitasking.</p>
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		<title>By: calling all toasters</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2010/08/16/scientists-go-rafting/#comment-8888</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[calling all toasters]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 14:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[N--

Wallace Stevens is on your side:

The greatest poverty is not to live
in a physical world, to feel that one&#039;s desire
Is too difficult to tell from despair.
(from &quot;Esthetique du Mal&quot;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>N&#8211;</p>
<p>Wallace Stevens is on your side:</p>
<p>The greatest poverty is not to live<br />
in a physical world, to feel that one&#8217;s desire<br />
Is too difficult to tell from despair.<br />
(from &#8220;Esthetique du Mal&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2010/08/16/scientists-go-rafting/#comment-8879</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 01:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This morning Steven Yantis and Paul Atchley were on the Takeaway, on NPR and compared the mind state during multi-tasking to schizophrenia..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This morning Steven Yantis and Paul Atchley were on the Takeaway, on NPR and compared the mind state during multi-tasking to schizophrenia..</p>
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		<title>By: eduardo</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2010/08/16/scientists-go-rafting/#comment-8877</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2010 22:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Plus it&#039;s almost 3,000 words long!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plus it&#8217;s almost 3,000 words long!</p>
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		<title>By: Romeo Vitelli</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2010/08/16/scientists-go-rafting/#comment-8874</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Romeo Vitelli]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2010 22:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Multitasking&quot; is one of those concepts that came down to us from computer science (along with &quot;parallel processing&quot;, cognitive science, etc).  It&#039;s funny to think that we wouldn&#039;t even be &lt;i&gt;thinking&lt;/i&gt; about multitasking etc if digital technology didn&#039;t exist.  B]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Multitasking&#8221; is one of those concepts that came down to us from computer science (along with &#8220;parallel processing&#8221;, cognitive science, etc).  It&#8217;s funny to think that we wouldn&#8217;t even be <i>thinking</i> about multitasking etc if digital technology didn&#8217;t exist.  B</p>
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		<title>By: N</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2010/08/16/scientists-go-rafting/#comment-8873</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2010 21:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just came back from a 6 day excursion. I fully agree that multi-tasking is not a new phenomenon.  

Though, there is something that profoundly alters one&#039;s mental state, when one changes to a different setting like this. 

On the trail, the first day or two, one stumbles around, trying to find a new &quot;rhythm&quot; to one&#039;s new daily routines.  You don&#039;t bathe or shave anymore.  You don&#039;t load the dishwasher.  You don&#039;t drive out and stop at Starbucks on the way to work.  It&#039;s all new tasks.  Wake, maybe turn your underwear inside out, brush teeth, fetch and filter water, prepare breakfast, wash dishes, break camp and pack, etc.  After 3 or so days, you get into these new habits, and it really kind of changes how you use your brain.  At least, that&#039;s my take on it.

After the prior months of the daily-work routine, where one&#039;s sole-survival task, really, is earning money. . . it&#039;s really a jolt to a whole different set of neurons, where you&#039;re now concerned with locating water sources, maintaining good navigational orientation, sticking to an itinerary so that the food you&#039;re carrying lasts, keeping food and other &quot;smellable&quot; products safe from bears, are you getting dehydrated? did you re-apply sunscreen? . . . etc.  

My mind and awareness are the same person. My daily tasking is actually  . . . MUCH more stressful. But, I&#039;ve given my &quot;normal&quot; functions a much needed rest. I come back home, exhausted, but strangely, refreshed.  It&#039;s a whole different set of skills, but the normal-daily skills are given a rest.

A lot of this electronic mutlitasking stuff is very language-oriented. Reading, texting, emailing, telephone, management of verbal or literal communications and information. This is very different than the ordinary non-verbal multitasking that goes on in everyday life, or, &quot;on the trail&quot;. It&#039;s very bound-up in sensations of adequacy, self-judgment of pleasing others, satisfying creditors, bosses, spouses, etc. 

I think that why this &quot;new&quot; multitasking feels so wrong to many people, is because they get so tied up in the verbal, rational, higher-brain functions, that they lose the linkage to the emotional coping that it&#039;s being used to satisfy.  And the more people do this, or &quot;train&quot; their brains to do it, without adequate rest and reflection, the more out-of-touch they become, and perhaps, the more neurotic coping mechanisms surface . . like obsessive checking of email and text messages, out of fear that they&#039;re going to &quot;miss something&quot; - or not respond to a boss or a client quickly enough.

So, my conclusion is; it&#039;s really important to find ways to detach, and do this often, in order to reflect, and &quot;recharge&quot; - so to speak.  I think this is why we invented weekends. (and I&#039;m guessing we used to have 6-day weeks, (Babylonian division of cycles by 60/30/15/12/10/5). . . And someone figured, that&#039;s not enough, we need two-days off.

I would also say; 4 weeks per year of PTO is definitely not enough.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just came back from a 6 day excursion. I fully agree that multi-tasking is not a new phenomenon.  </p>
<p>Though, there is something that profoundly alters one&#8217;s mental state, when one changes to a different setting like this. </p>
<p>On the trail, the first day or two, one stumbles around, trying to find a new &#8220;rhythm&#8221; to one&#8217;s new daily routines.  You don&#8217;t bathe or shave anymore.  You don&#8217;t load the dishwasher.  You don&#8217;t drive out and stop at Starbucks on the way to work.  It&#8217;s all new tasks.  Wake, maybe turn your underwear inside out, brush teeth, fetch and filter water, prepare breakfast, wash dishes, break camp and pack, etc.  After 3 or so days, you get into these new habits, and it really kind of changes how you use your brain.  At least, that&#8217;s my take on it.</p>
<p>After the prior months of the daily-work routine, where one&#8217;s sole-survival task, really, is earning money. . . it&#8217;s really a jolt to a whole different set of neurons, where you&#8217;re now concerned with locating water sources, maintaining good navigational orientation, sticking to an itinerary so that the food you&#8217;re carrying lasts, keeping food and other &#8220;smellable&#8221; products safe from bears, are you getting dehydrated? did you re-apply sunscreen? . . . etc.  </p>
<p>My mind and awareness are the same person. My daily tasking is actually  . . . MUCH more stressful. But, I&#8217;ve given my &#8220;normal&#8221; functions a much needed rest. I come back home, exhausted, but strangely, refreshed.  It&#8217;s a whole different set of skills, but the normal-daily skills are given a rest.</p>
<p>A lot of this electronic mutlitasking stuff is very language-oriented. Reading, texting, emailing, telephone, management of verbal or literal communications and information. This is very different than the ordinary non-verbal multitasking that goes on in everyday life, or, &#8220;on the trail&#8221;. It&#8217;s very bound-up in sensations of adequacy, self-judgment of pleasing others, satisfying creditors, bosses, spouses, etc. </p>
<p>I think that why this &#8220;new&#8221; multitasking feels so wrong to many people, is because they get so tied up in the verbal, rational, higher-brain functions, that they lose the linkage to the emotional coping that it&#8217;s being used to satisfy.  And the more people do this, or &#8220;train&#8221; their brains to do it, without adequate rest and reflection, the more out-of-touch they become, and perhaps, the more neurotic coping mechanisms surface . . like obsessive checking of email and text messages, out of fear that they&#8217;re going to &#8220;miss something&#8221; &#8211; or not respond to a boss or a client quickly enough.</p>
<p>So, my conclusion is; it&#8217;s really important to find ways to detach, and do this often, in order to reflect, and &#8220;recharge&#8221; &#8211; so to speak.  I think this is why we invented weekends. (and I&#8217;m guessing we used to have 6-day weeks, (Babylonian division of cycles by 60/30/15/12/10/5). . . And someone figured, that&#8217;s not enough, we need two-days off.</p>
<p>I would also say; 4 weeks per year of PTO is definitely not enough.</p>
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		<title>By: nalts</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2010/08/16/scientists-go-rafting/#comment-8872</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2010 20:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wowzer- here I have fallen prey to the &quot;multi-tasking is evil&quot; mantra, and just this morning heard Wayne Dyer (on CD) interpret the Tao as &quot;do one thing at a time.&quot; Alas, while technology has probably blown multi-tasking to a new level, it&#039;s probably not something I want to discourage in my offspring (as busy as they keep me in the mode you describe). I&#039;d argue their ability to multitask might reduce their societal obsolescence (and arguably mine, I say as shooting over to Twitter to RT).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wowzer- here I have fallen prey to the &#8220;multi-tasking is evil&#8221; mantra, and just this morning heard Wayne Dyer (on CD) interpret the Tao as &#8220;do one thing at a time.&#8221; Alas, while technology has probably blown multi-tasking to a new level, it&#8217;s probably not something I want to discourage in my offspring (as busy as they keep me in the mode you describe). I&#8217;d argue their ability to multitask might reduce their societal obsolescence (and arguably mine, I say as shooting over to Twitter to RT).</p>
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		<title>By: john personna</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2010/08/16/scientists-go-rafting/#comment-8869</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[john personna]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2010 19:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The grand canyon voyage was a useful mechanism in William Calvin&#039;s &quot;The River That Flows Uphill: A Journey from the Big Bang to the Big Brain.&quot;

That was my amateur&#039;s introduction to evolutionary neurobiology.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The grand canyon voyage was a useful mechanism in William Calvin&#8217;s &#8220;The River That Flows Uphill: A Journey from the Big Bang to the Big Brain.&#8221;</p>
<p>That was my amateur&#8217;s introduction to evolutionary neurobiology.</p>
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