Comments on: The tree of drunkeness

By: me

me — Mon, 01 Apr 2013 18:04:59 +0000

The CIA uses it regularly. Thieves in Colombia use it every day in combination with other drugs. Is not a ‘popular belief’ and this is not a recreational drug. Search for emburundangado

By: Uncle B

Uncle B — Thu, 10 Nov 2011 00:57:49 +0000

Strange for this to appear on the web! Watch the American kids when they catch onto this one! Pain reliever for the masses! Corporate living ‘Easing” Goddamn!

By: DuWayne

DuWayne — Wed, 14 Jul 2010 15:21:38 +0000

There is an interesting popular belief about the drug, namely that it removes free will. The idea being that you have all your mental faculties but will do whatever is suggested to you without resistance, so criminals can get you to take out money from the cash machine or hand them the keys to your house.
I don’t recall using Brugmansia* specifically, but I do have a lot of experience with the Datura genus which are all Tropane containing plants as well. I am not sure how accurate the notion of having all one’s faculties in place would be. While a person under the influence of such plants would be easy to control, they would likely be suffering at least some cognitive impairment. Given even a little higher dose than necessary and they would be unlikely to have a clue what is actually happening in reality.
I also would point out that the memory loss issue is also rather more complicated than first glance. I have pretty solid recall of most of my experiences with Tropane plants, they just don’t happen to include what was happening outside my head. Ie. I could tell you a lot about what I thought was happening, directly from memory. The only way I can describe what was actually happening, is only through the descriptions of others.
* After a friend read my response to Abel Pharmboy’s post (here) he emailed me and mentioned that Brugmansia was one of the plants he was cultivating and is pretty sure that I used some. Understand that during that period of my life, I was using damned near every hallucinogen I could get my hands on – most every drug period, really. So many things have gotten jumbled into the mix.

By: Lizardo Cruzado

Lizardo Cruzado — Sun, 06 Jun 2010 00:14:51 +0000

Hello Vaughan:
Here in Peru this plant is known with the name of ‘chamico’ and it is used in folk medicine for get the male partner of a couple more docile and manageable. Big Pharma have to know this, I think. Just imagine the blockbuster.

By: Joey Mack

Joey Mack — Sun, 06 Jun 2010 00:09:35 +0000

Go to erowid.org and read some trip reports, pretty wild.