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		<title>By: larry</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2009/07/28/autism-treated-with-lsd/#comment-41151</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2012 02:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK, maybe we are overdiagnosing autism as anyone exceptional with poor social skills. this is retarded. totally unscientific. LSD is not a treatment for autism though potentially is a treatment for OCD which many consider autistic (how many of us are autistic now)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, maybe we are overdiagnosing autism as anyone exceptional with poor social skills. this is retarded. totally unscientific. LSD is not a treatment for autism though potentially is a treatment for OCD which many consider autistic (how many of us are autistic now)</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2009/07/28/autism-treated-with-lsd/#comment-39786</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2012 02:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sandoz promoted studies that included both positive and negative results, becase they always promoted the use of Thorazine injection in the case of a bad trip, so in a clinical setting, you can&#039;t really have a bad trip with a reset option like that...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sandoz promoted studies that included both positive and negative results, becase they always promoted the use of Thorazine injection in the case of a bad trip, so in a clinical setting, you can&#8217;t really have a bad trip with a reset option like that&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2009/07/28/autism-treated-with-lsd/#comment-39785</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2012 01:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;childhood schizophrenia&quot; at that time was merely a synonym for autism.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;childhood schizophrenia&#8221; at that time was merely a synonym for autism.</p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2009/07/28/autism-treated-with-lsd/#comment-30729</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 19:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes it truly is amazing that those studies contain both &quot;good&quot; AND &quot;bad&quot; results. It&#039;s almost as if they weren&#039;t bOught off by big pharma to approve a new drug. (cuz if they were, the 70% negative would be swept under the rug as they are with most pharmaceuticals). Ironic that the drugs they do give to autistic kids kill more people in the last 10 years than LSD has ever killed. Oh well thank god for big pharma.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes it truly is amazing that those studies contain both &#8220;good&#8221; AND &#8220;bad&#8221; results. It&#8217;s almost as if they weren&#8217;t bOught off by big pharma to approve a new drug. (cuz if they were, the 70% negative would be swept under the rug as they are with most pharmaceuticals). Ironic that the drugs they do give to autistic kids kill more people in the last 10 years than LSD has ever killed. Oh well thank god for big pharma.</p>
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		<title>By: Rauchelle</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2009/07/28/autism-treated-with-lsd/#comment-27201</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 23:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think this is a fantastic idea! This could be used in VERY, VERY small doses when the small child is first seen to have problems. We all know that LSD &quot;wakes&quot; up the brain and does NOT stay in the system. It can&#039;t be detected in 24 hours. The only reason it brings on mood swings is because of how it is obsorbed into the body. This is a fantastic idea!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is a fantastic idea! This could be used in VERY, VERY small doses when the small child is first seen to have problems. We all know that LSD &#8220;wakes&#8221; up the brain and does NOT stay in the system. It can&#8217;t be detected in 24 hours. The only reason it brings on mood swings is because of how it is obsorbed into the body. This is a fantastic idea!</p>
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		<title>By: me tomas</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2009/07/28/autism-treated-with-lsd/#comment-21457</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 16:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No Illegal Maahn]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Illegal Maahn</p>
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		<title>By: Moshalas</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2009/07/28/autism-treated-with-lsd/#comment-12866</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2010 21:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It turns out that the words &quot;autism&quot; and &quot;psychedelic&quot; have a strong link. A substance called bufotenin was detected in many of their urine samples. The effects are similar to LSD.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It turns out that the words &#8220;autism&#8221; and &#8220;psychedelic&#8221; have a strong link. A substance called bufotenin was detected in many of their urine samples. The effects are similar to LSD.</p>
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		<title>By: Austin</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2009/07/28/autism-treated-with-lsd/#comment-12163</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Austin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 04:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I experienced LSD myself the first time a couple months ago.
I&#039;m pretty sure I have a mild form of aspberger&#039;s.  (not diagnosed or anything just always been very very isolated and socially awkward)  So far it&#039;s helping me tremendously with social anxiety and just letting myself out into the real world and with self esteem.

For me, Acid might be a step INTO reality.  (but only if I use it RIGHT.)
I feel like I feel things more intensely now.

Of course, I&#039;m only 18, so I could just be growing up.

(this is not to refute that acid is incredibly psychologically dangerous to idiots.  
Idiots should not take acid, and idiots never know they&#039;re idiots 
:P  in my view this is the best reason to keep it illegal)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I experienced LSD myself the first time a couple months ago.<br />
I&#8217;m pretty sure I have a mild form of aspberger&#8217;s.  (not diagnosed or anything just always been very very isolated and socially awkward)  So far it&#8217;s helping me tremendously with social anxiety and just letting myself out into the real world and with self esteem.</p>
<p>For me, Acid might be a step INTO reality.  (but only if I use it RIGHT.)<br />
I feel like I feel things more intensely now.</p>
<p>Of course, I&#8217;m only 18, so I could just be growing up.</p>
<p>(this is not to refute that acid is incredibly psychologically dangerous to idiots.<br />
Idiots should not take acid, and idiots never know they&#8217;re idiots  <img src='http://s2.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' />   in my view this is the best reason to keep it illegal)</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Selpal</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2009/07/28/autism-treated-with-lsd/#comment-5458</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Selpal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 07:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am hoping that more people will register and comment here.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Selpal</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2009/07/28/autism-treated-with-lsd/#comment-5457</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Selpal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 07:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am Steve Selpal, an artist/illustrator, and graphic designer, with credentials. A lifetime of being enveloped in the autism world (unseen to you, neurological typical ) plus being enveloped in all of the self-training, and psychological therapist training and psychiatric doctor meds, to fit into the so-called real world has enabled me to survive to the age of 59, now, almost 60. All the therapy was good.
I was born in 1950, late in the year, 11/11. I managed to be an outpatient, taking supervised psychiatric medicines most of those years. I was in psychiatric hospitals 3 times, over the years.
I wish I could get the papers of O.I. Lovass. I am sure that by reviewing his collected data, I, could/would result in a
comparison of his data analogous to my own observation/summary of myself. The effects of LSD for people with autism does not measurably change the states of mind or awareness and sensitivity to external phenomena. The importance of such an experiment would require one, two, or more NTs (neurotypicals, from an Aspie&#039;s perspective). There is a good reason for this, regarding the Aspie or Autie&#039;s progress.
All of the NT therapist participants and the Aspie/Autie person should take the same dosage of LSD-25. This should be an adequate or large amount to cause effective hallucinations. A small dosage of LSD-25, such as 100 mcg that has been used for talk therapy, is inadequate, for all participants. It has to be a much larger dose.
The health-giving presence of the well meaning NT therapists will reassure the Aspie subject that all is well. Everyone can relax for awhile. The progressive effects of the LSD will affect the observable conditions of the NT therapists. They will have a profound experience. Normal (NT) people cannot describe this.
The autistic participant will realize that the NTs, his/her normal friends have entered the &quot;normal&quot; world of the Autie/Aspie. LSD equalizes the communication between therapists and their autistic subjects or patients. This connection of communicating between the therapists and the Autie/Aspie, is like leveling the playground. The Autie or Aspie can explain to the NT therapists what they are seeing. There are many kinds of seemingly foreign life forms that are unknown to the NT, but are common to the Autie/Aspie daily, typical perceptions.
The mental development of the Autie/Aspie is thus advanced or improved by his/her attempt at explaining into words to the NT therapists, the experience of their typical daily environment, it&#039;s lower life forms which is just ordinary stuff to the Autie or Asperger&#039;s daily life. The action of explaining and chatting between the therapists and the subject Autistic person, causes image projection and an attempt at describing and experiencing a commonality. The Aspie or Autie can come out and show an authoritative role, perhaps for the first time in the subject&#039;s life. The very actions of striving to communicate to the NTs in words, programs the Autistic person to memorize an avenue of communication, with the will to describe this other reality.
The result of all of this experience is a progress of communication between Autistic people and internist psychologists. The results of such experimenting is beneficial to all participants.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am Steve Selpal, an artist/illustrator, and graphic designer, with credentials. A lifetime of being enveloped in the autism world (unseen to you, neurological typical ) plus being enveloped in all of the self-training, and psychological therapist training and psychiatric doctor meds, to fit into the so-called real world has enabled me to survive to the age of 59, now, almost 60. All the therapy was good.<br />
I was born in 1950, late in the year, 11/11. I managed to be an outpatient, taking supervised psychiatric medicines most of those years. I was in psychiatric hospitals 3 times, over the years.<br />
I wish I could get the papers of O.I. Lovass. I am sure that by reviewing his collected data, I, could/would result in a<br />
comparison of his data analogous to my own observation/summary of myself. The effects of LSD for people with autism does not measurably change the states of mind or awareness and sensitivity to external phenomena. The importance of such an experiment would require one, two, or more NTs (neurotypicals, from an Aspie&#8217;s perspective). There is a good reason for this, regarding the Aspie or Autie&#8217;s progress.<br />
All of the NT therapist participants and the Aspie/Autie person should take the same dosage of LSD-25. This should be an adequate or large amount to cause effective hallucinations. A small dosage of LSD-25, such as 100 mcg that has been used for talk therapy, is inadequate, for all participants. It has to be a much larger dose.<br />
The health-giving presence of the well meaning NT therapists will reassure the Aspie subject that all is well. Everyone can relax for awhile. The progressive effects of the LSD will affect the observable conditions of the NT therapists. They will have a profound experience. Normal (NT) people cannot describe this.<br />
The autistic participant will realize that the NTs, his/her normal friends have entered the &#8220;normal&#8221; world of the Autie/Aspie. LSD equalizes the communication between therapists and their autistic subjects or patients. This connection of communicating between the therapists and the Autie/Aspie, is like leveling the playground. The Autie or Aspie can explain to the NT therapists what they are seeing. There are many kinds of seemingly foreign life forms that are unknown to the NT, but are common to the Autie/Aspie daily, typical perceptions.<br />
The mental development of the Autie/Aspie is thus advanced or improved by his/her attempt at explaining into words to the NT therapists, the experience of their typical daily environment, it&#8217;s lower life forms which is just ordinary stuff to the Autie or Asperger&#8217;s daily life. The action of explaining and chatting between the therapists and the subject Autistic person, causes image projection and an attempt at describing and experiencing a commonality. The Aspie or Autie can come out and show an authoritative role, perhaps for the first time in the subject&#8217;s life. The very actions of striving to communicate to the NTs in words, programs the Autistic person to memorize an avenue of communication, with the will to describe this other reality.<br />
The result of all of this experience is a progress of communication between Autistic people and internist psychologists. The results of such experimenting is beneficial to all participants.</p>
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