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	<title>Comments on: Gun ownership linked to suicide</title>
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		<title>By: Ibn Luanda</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2007/04/12/gun-ownership-linked-to-suicide/#comment-7440</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ibn Luanda]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello,
In december I writed a post about the need (or not) of fire arms. Investigating about it I found that (in spanish, sorry):
La relaci√≥n entre disponibilidad de armas e incidentes ocurridos es evidente y ha sido puesta de manifiesto por numerosas investigaciones experimentales y estudios epidemiol√≥gicos. En un reciente estudio realizado en USA y presentado en el Annual Meeting of the American Public Health Association (Kellerman y cols. , 1992) los datos eran significativos. El 73% del total de suicidios fueron cometidos con armas de fuego. En los hogares en donde hab√≠a este tipo de armas, el 86% de los casos de suicidio fueron realizados con este sistema, mientras que unicamente se utilizaron armas de fuego en el 6% de los suicidios en los que el individuo no ten√≠a en propiedad arma de fuego alguna.
En otros trabajos realizados en Australia se detallaron correlaciones tan elevadas como 0,91 entre disponibilidad de armas de fuego y homicidios perpetrados, o de 0,94 entre disponibilidad de armas y suicidio.
Link: http://www.cop.es/papeles/vernumero.asp?id=730
The study was made by a psychological team in order to evaluate the needs for having a possesion permission of fire arms in Spain.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,<br />
In december I writed a post about the need (or not) of fire arms. Investigating about it I found that (in spanish, sorry):<br />
La relaci√≥n entre disponibilidad de armas e incidentes ocurridos es evidente y ha sido puesta de manifiesto por numerosas investigaciones experimentales y estudios epidemiol√≥gicos. En un reciente estudio realizado en USA y presentado en el Annual Meeting of the American Public Health Association (Kellerman y cols. , 1992) los datos eran significativos. El 73% del total de suicidios fueron cometidos con armas de fuego. En los hogares en donde hab√≠a este tipo de armas, el 86% de los casos de suicidio fueron realizados con este sistema, mientras que unicamente se utilizaron armas de fuego en el 6% de los suicidios en los que el individuo no ten√≠a en propiedad arma de fuego alguna.<br />
En otros trabajos realizados en Australia se detallaron correlaciones tan elevadas como 0,91 entre disponibilidad de armas de fuego y homicidios perpetrados, o de 0,94 entre disponibilidad de armas y suicidio.<br />
Link: <a href="http://www.cop.es/papeles/vernumero.asp?id=730" rel="nofollow">http://www.cop.es/papeles/vernumero.asp?id=730</a><br />
The study was made by a psychological team in order to evaluate the needs for having a possesion permission of fire arms in Spain.</p>
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		<title>By: Frangible</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2007/04/12/gun-ownership-linked-to-suicide/#comment-7439</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 15:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, proxy measure, which means little (and the study says as much, criticizing proxy measurements) when the true issue is social isolation via low population density.  Social isolation/loneliness has been found in numerous other studies to be one of the strongest causal factors of suicide.  Not considering this well-known fact is just academic apathy.
Correlation does not equal causation.  I&#039;m not really sure why I need to explain this...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, proxy measure, which means little (and the study says as much, criticizing proxy measurements) when the true issue is social isolation via low population density.  Social isolation/loneliness has been found in numerous other studies to be one of the strongest causal factors of suicide.  Not considering this well-known fact is just academic apathy.<br />
Correlation does not equal causation.  I&#8217;m not really sure why I need to explain this&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Vaughan</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2007/04/12/gun-ownership-linked-to-suicide/#comment-7438</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 12:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The study controlled for urbanisation (a proxy measure of population density), mental illness and drug abuse.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The study controlled for urbanisation (a proxy measure of population density), mental illness and drug abuse.</p>
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		<title>By: Frangible</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2007/04/12/gun-ownership-linked-to-suicide/#comment-7437</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 07:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your commentary reads like an exercise in confirmation bias; transcend your ego and the false choice fallacy of politics ruled by hatred and anger, Vaughan.  The explanation for this is quite simple:  gun ownership and suicide both correlate with population density, but for different reasons.  I&#039;ll let you PubMed and find out why.  Break it down per US state, and you&#039;ll start to see trends.  Now add drug abuse and depression.  You may, in fact, notice a pattern emerging from the data.  But oh, the desire to rationalize those emotions that arose is oh-so-tempting.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your commentary reads like an exercise in confirmation bias; transcend your ego and the false choice fallacy of politics ruled by hatred and anger, Vaughan.  The explanation for this is quite simple:  gun ownership and suicide both correlate with population density, but for different reasons.  I&#8217;ll let you PubMed and find out why.  Break it down per US state, and you&#8217;ll start to see trends.  Now add drug abuse and depression.  You may, in fact, notice a pattern emerging from the data.  But oh, the desire to rationalize those emotions that arose is oh-so-tempting.</p>
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