Comments on: Chimps fair or foul http://mindhacks.com/2005/02/01/chimps-fair-or-foul/ Neuroscience and psychology news and views. Mon, 20 May 2013 15:51:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Odograph.com http://mindhacks.com/2005/02/01/chimps-fair-or-foul/#comment-8559 Wed, 02 Feb 2005 16:18:56 +0000 http://mindhacksblog.wordpress.com/2005/02/01/chimps-fair-or-foul/#comment-8559 Fairness

Mind Hacks has an article about Frans de Waal’s work with chimps. I listened to one of his talks here at IT Conversations. Great stuff.

]]> By: Alex Fradera http://mindhacks.com/2005/02/01/chimps-fair-or-foul/#comment-8558 Wed, 02 Feb 2005 15:47:34 +0000 http://mindhacksblog.wordpress.com/2005/02/01/chimps-fair-or-foul/#comment-8558 I should say that the work described at the LSE all those moons ago might well have been the capuchin studies Matt links to, not the more recent chimp stuff I link to. I normally make a point of knowing my ape from my monkey, but time does take its toll.

]]> By: jamesm http://mindhacks.com/2005/02/01/chimps-fair-or-foul/#comment-8557 Wed, 02 Feb 2005 13:21:25 +0000 http://mindhacksblog.wordpress.com/2005/02/01/chimps-fair-or-foul/#comment-8557 A BBC Nature programme demonstrated the grape experiment, and also showed the Monkeys placing nuts to dry the sun for a period of days to allow easier removal of their shells but the interesting thing was they always placed new nuts down before transporting the already dried nuts to a remote “anvil” for smashing the shell, it was fascinating to see them planning ahead.
Unfortunately the BBC don’t seem to have permalinks to Nature programmes, but this article covers some of it,
http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/animals/features/278feature1.shtml
Just Started reading Wisdom of Crowds, its very good
Also an online talk at ITConversations by Frans Da Waal
http://www.itconversations.com/shows/detail231.html

]]> By: DonnaM http://mindhacks.com/2005/02/01/chimps-fair-or-foul/#comment-8556 Wed, 02 Feb 2005 01:12:38 +0000 http://mindhacksblog.wordpress.com/2005/02/01/chimps-fair-or-foul/#comment-8556 OK, no links. Here is the URL for my comment above:
http://maadmob.net/maadbooks/indiv.php/wisdom-of-crowds/

]]> By: DonnaM http://mindhacks.com/2005/02/01/chimps-fair-or-foul/#comment-8555 Wed, 02 Feb 2005 01:11:20 +0000 http://mindhacksblog.wordpress.com/2005/02/01/chimps-fair-or-foul/#comment-8555 There is also some good stuff on this and other examples of fairness in James Surowiecki’s The Wisdom of Crowds (the link goes to a brief review I wrote for this book).

]]> By: mattw http://mindhacks.com/2005/02/01/chimps-fair-or-foul/#comment-8554 Tue, 01 Feb 2005 17:06:20 +0000 http://mindhacksblog.wordpress.com/2005/02/01/chimps-fair-or-foul/#comment-8554 Couple o’ nice links about Frans de Waal:
His book, The Ape and the Sushi Master, covers culture in animals. It’s a fascinating read. First chapter: http://www.nytimes.com/books/first/d/dewaal-sushi.html
And a while back he published some research about monkeys and their sense of fair play. There’s an article at New Scientist here: http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn4179
Snippet: ” They trained capuchin monkeys, which are native to the forests of South America, to exchange a token for food. Once the monkeys were used to handling the tokens, Brosnan set them up in pairs and rewarded each in turn. If both received a piece of cucumber as a reward, they behaved as before. However, if Brosnan gave one a grape, which they considered a more prized morsel, the other often refused to accept the cucumber. Worse still, if one monkey was rewarded for doing nothing, then four times out of five the other refused to participate further (Nature, vol 425, p 297).”

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