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	<title>Comments on: Rrrrroar</title>
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		<title>By: Wrinkels</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2004/12/01/rrrrroar/#comment-8652</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2004 07:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your mistake regarding the physical changing the mental (the way people think) is elementary...  Your mistake is in implicitly assuming that the chemical is a physical thing.  Look at it this way, instead of being a physical chemical which is influencing the brain (soul, spirit, whatever) why not assert that the caffeine is also of a mental nature?  In any event, you can not prove to me that caffeine is a physical thing (I dare you to try ;).  I would reply that caffeine is a thought, a concept, a purely mental constuction... ;) ;) ;)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your mistake regarding the physical changing the mental (the way people think) is elementary&#8230;  Your mistake is in implicitly assuming that the chemical is a physical thing.  Look at it this way, instead of being a physical chemical which is influencing the brain (soul, spirit, whatever) why not assert that the caffeine is also of a mental nature?  In any event, you can not prove to me that caffeine is a physical thing (I dare you to try <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> .  I would reply that caffeine is a thought, a concept, a purely mental constuction&#8230; <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: kenny</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2004/12/01/rrrrroar/#comment-8651</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2004 04:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[whoops! here you go - http://eve.physics.ox.ac.uk/Personal/steane/qcintro.html
:D
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whoops! here you go &#8211; <a href="http://eve.physics.ox.ac.uk/Personal/steane/qcintro.html" rel="nofollow">http://eve.physics.ox.ac.uk/Personal/steane/qcintro.html</a> <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: kenny</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2004/12/01/rrrrroar/#comment-8650</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2004 04:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[just reminded me of a quote i read in this intro to quantum computing :D
&quot;The rallying cry of the information physicist is &#039;no information without physical representation!&#039;&quot;
cheers!
kenny :D
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just reminded me of a quote i read in this intro to quantum computing <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
&#8220;The rallying cry of the information physicist is &#8216;no information without physical representation!&#8217;&#8221;<br />
cheers!<br />
kenny <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
		<link>http://mindhacks.com/2004/12/01/rrrrroar/#comment-8649</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 17:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[// add some chemicals and you can alter how and what someone thinks //
One thing that people don&#039;t seem to emphasised so much when talking about the whole mind-is-physical thing is that it goes both ways. Yes, if you take a drug and alter your brain chemistry you will have a different conscious experience, but also, if you have a different conscious experience for some other reason (some internal dynamic, some social experience, whatever) that is altering your brain chemistry...The mind is not some puppet played by the brain, a brain which possesses the controlling force of physical reality...Mind and brain exist on the same level - they are co-dependent (although necessarily we experience them differently because we see one from the inside!).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>// add some chemicals and you can alter how and what someone thinks //<br />
One thing that people don&#8217;t seem to emphasised so much when talking about the whole mind-is-physical thing is that it goes both ways. Yes, if you take a drug and alter your brain chemistry you will have a different conscious experience, but also, if you have a different conscious experience for some other reason (some internal dynamic, some social experience, whatever) that is altering your brain chemistry&#8230;The mind is not some puppet played by the brain, a brain which possesses the controlling force of physical reality&#8230;Mind and brain exist on the same level &#8211; they are co-dependent (although necessarily we experience them differently because we see one from the inside!).</p>
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